that all that happens is god’s doing, i see no reason why anyone should be punished for doing what god has made them do. Jeff Bohlender in the liked post has written and I quote
God makes us what we are, places us where we are, and operates our operating, even if it still seems to us that we’re “doing” things. Growth in our experience happens when God brings us into conscious enjoyment of Him as the Source and Operator of all existence, of which we all are a part. Growth in faith comes through hearing and believing God, Who gives ears to hear and belief in the heart.
which i think is consistent with omnibenevolence as nothing would stop a god from achieving it ends, ie omnipotence and the said god would know all outcomes- omniscience-. Are religious people ready to accept the conclusions that must be drawn from the premise that everything that happens is god’s will?
JJ Rousseau wrote in social contract that man is born free but everywhere he walks in chains.
Okot P’bitek on the other hand wrote man is not born free because even at birth he is physically attached to the mother. And man can’t be free. It is in these chains that he becomes human- societal chains( brother, sister, father, mother, uncle and all).
This is an open thread.
I would like to hear occasions when you or someone you know has been selfless, that is, acted and they didn’t stand a chance to benefit in any way.
To put it differently, is selflessness possible?
Mark Twain thinks it is the descent of man from the higher to lower, where man occupies the lower ranks. I find his arguments plausible.
by Desmond Morris
No, this is not a review. I just started reading the book and I like the introduction. He writes
There are one hundred and ninety three living species of monkeys and apes. One hundred and ninety two of them are covered with hair. The exception is a naked ape self name Homo sapiens. This unusual and highly successful species spends a great deal of time studiously ignoring his fundamental ones. He is proud that he has the biggest brain of all the primates, but attempts to conceal the fact that he also has the biggest penis, preferring to accord this honour falsely to the mighty gorilla.
I will tell you once I finish the book and once again thanks archy for the recommendation.
Our greatest suffering do not lie in the present as ideas of perception or as immediate feelings but in the reason as abstract conceptions, painful thoughts, from which the brute, which lives only in the present and therefore, in enviable carelessness, is entirely free
Arthur Schopenhauer in The World as Will and Idea
Let it not then be said, that it is degrading man to reduce his functions to a pure mechanism; that it is shameful to undervalue him, scandalously to abuse him, to compare him to a tree; to an abject vegetation. The philosopher devoid of prejudice does not understand this language, invented by those who are ignorant of what constitutes the true dignity of man.
A tree is an object, which in its station, joins the useful with the agreeable; it merits our approbation when it produces sweet and pleasant fruit; when it affords a favourable shade. All machines are precious, when they are truly useful, when they faithfully perform the functions for which they are designed.
Yes, I speak it with courage, reiterate it with pleasure, the honest man, when he has talents, when he possesses virtue, is, for the beings of his species, a tree that furnishes them with delicious fruit, that affords them refreshing shelter: the honest man is a machine of which the springs are adapted to fulfil its functions in a manner that must gratify the expectation of all his fellows. No, I should not blush. I should not feel degraded, to be a machine of this sort; and my heart would leap with joy, if I could foresee that the fruit of my reflections would one day be useful to my race, consoling to my fellow man.
System of Nature by d’Holdbach
What is man?
He is a material being, organized after a peculiar manner; conformed to a certain mode of thinking- of feeling; capable of modification in certain modes peculiar to himself- to his organization- to that particular combination of matter which is found assembled in him.
What origin do we give to the human species?
Like all other beings, man is a production of Nature, who resembles them in some respects, and finds himself submitted to the same laws; who differs from them in other respects, and follows particular laws, determined by the diversity of his confirmation.
Whence came man?
Our experience on this head does not capacitate us to resolve the question; but that it cannot interest us, as it suffices for us to know that man exists; that he is constituted, as to be competent to the effects we witness.
Adapted from System of Nature by d’Holdbach