The Ark has invited Christians to a challenge. So far, as at this posting, none has taken it up. The one Christian who has commented has only questioned his motives.
My challenge on the other hand is to the godless; non believers, atheists, agnostics and whoever else in between.
My agnostic friends tell me whether a god is or not and what it is or could be is unknowable but live their lives as if there is no god.
My atheist friends tell me no evidence for a god has been provided. They lack a belief in the existence of gods/ deities.
My igtheist friends say the notion of god is incoherent and hasn’t been properly defined to warrant a debate on whether a god could exist.
All these people live their lives as if there is no god.
My question or challenge simply is to be told why all these groups are reluctant to say there is no god? What is a god to do if one or several were to exist?
Random thoughts 
How can the theory of athiesm be based on the answer of.. Dont know?
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Hi Mick~
I have to confess, you’ve piqued my curiosity. What is the theory of atheism? I’ve never heard that one before.
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I am hoping we will not wait for long for the answer
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Was just about to ask the same thing. Theory of atheism?
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We can all wait for the answer or was it given already?
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Where people don’t believe in God and any questions as to their existance is answered with dont know.
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I think you may confused about what a “theory” is. Atheism is the descriptor of a state of disbelief. That’s it. Cosmology’s a whole other thing.
Also, I think you’re confusing “knowing” with “believing”. It’s possible to believe something that’s not true. Accepting something as true doesn’t make it so.
So my next question would be:
How do you KNOW a god exists?
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I just wrote it as the way I thought it at the time. He exists to me through my own existance and sophisticated natural world in which we live and through my own experiences. Of course these are my beliefs and my hopes and the faith pushes me further. Doesn’t mean I am right or wrong
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We agree then. You believe in god, but don’t know it exists. As it turns out, “don’t know” is a reasonable, honest admission.
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I didn’t say dont know.. I said to me je does
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What methodology did you use to determine your knowledge? I know if I drop a bowling ball on my foot it will hurt. [Observation, experience, testability] How did you confirm your belief to be justified?
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Visions, dreams, observations, my mere existance, the ability to understand, the perfect natural world and the hope of seeing relatives again
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And this you call evidence for god, your specific god?
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Your beliefs are heresy to the next person. Why should we even consider them?
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Believe what u want. Thats what makes humans magic
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You are letting him off too easy. He first need to tell us what he means by theory of atheism in a way that makes sense
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Heh. I think we’ve gotten what we can get from young Mick. Do hold his foot in the fire if he comes back. 🙂
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It will be held in a slow fire, to mimic the burning of heretics
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My friend has asked you for a clarification on theory of atheism. On my part I want to know what you understand theory to mean
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The theory is of no God. We are here by accident. Any question of their existance etc is answered with.. Dont know… This is not an answer
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You didn’t answer my question.
What is your understanding of theory?
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Test and discover yours?
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Is English your 10th language? Are you able to string together words in a way that begins to make sense?
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Why you being rude?
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I am not being rude. I am asking you to write sensible statements
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Well i thought you was rude. You dont have to speak to me like that. We could of had a nice friendly debate but there’s no point speaking about it as you like to attack. You say im guilty of heresy… Maybe your also guilty of such and hypocrisy
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At what point did I say you were guilty of heresy?
I have no problem with a friendly discussion, but to have a semblance of a discussion both parties must make sense. You are not even trying.
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Read back where you use the word heresy
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In referring to you? Please copy and paste it in your next reply
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You said my beliefs are heresy to the next person why shud u believe?
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Did you understand that statement? Why should someone believe your dreams?
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They can believe what they want i dont make them. I follow what motivates and supports me
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Good for you
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I find the good which benefits me in everything to make me a better person and why not? We should all be on a path of improvement maybe and self development. I find empowerment in many places. Positivity can be power
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Wrote a new blog if your interested to debate it
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What about mate
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I will read it later.
Thanks
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There is evidence of God. Its within our breath and beauty of the world and our existance
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Have you studied logic, even if by accident?
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Give me example
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Example for what?
I asked if you have studied logic? It is a yes or no question
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Yes you?
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@makagutu and @JohnZande:
It would be quite ironic if his answer was “don’t know”
justsayin.
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@mick25117
Let’s separate those things into their appropriate categories to better understand them.
*Visions*
*dreams*
Those are subjective experiences that can’t be shared with others. I’ve had visions and dreams of being six foot two and married to Rudy Valentino, sadly when I woke reality set in.
*observations* <===
I'm really excited about this one! You've actually seen god? Can you describe him? How did god manifest in an observable way to you? Do you see him often?
*my mere existance*
*the ability to understand*
You have your biological parents and evolution to thank for these things. What led you to the conclusion they correlate to a god?
*the perfect natural world*
I'm confused by this. The world is a hostile place. Only a percentage of it is habitable. It's even worse out in space…
*the hope of seeing relatives again*
I'm not sure I understand how a "hope" brings you closer to knowledge or evidence of god. If you can, unpack this for me.
I have to say, other than observation, it seems like you rely on personal incredulity to support your beliefs and that is not a reliable pathway to knowledge in my experience.
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Ugh. Credulity. Personal credulity not incredulity. Gonna have to fire my smell checker.
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